tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post8211799545960225397..comments2024-03-27T08:49:38.786-03:00Comments on Siskoid's Blog of Geekery: Star Trek #1420: Where No Man Has Gone Before (Reboot)Siskoidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-75925874558627412622011-09-27T08:10:23.095-03:002011-09-27T08:10:23.095-03:00Maybe he's still there and he's possessing...Maybe he's still there and he's possessing the Gary Mitchell of the new timeline!!!Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-62753192071227871952011-09-26T23:52:24.236-03:002011-09-26T23:52:24.236-03:00Dehner had drained him, but after Kirk hesitated a...Dehner had drained him, but after Kirk hesitated at adminstering the death blow, Mitchell rebounded and seemingly was god again. Maybe he wasn't back to full power, though, and died...but maybe he's still there, waiting for a hapless explorer to wander by and go "Hey, what's under that rock?"snellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181997862745538999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-39606002969318192912011-09-26T17:35:38.705-03:002011-09-26T17:35:38.705-03:00He had drained his power fighting Dehner, right?
...He had drained his power fighting Dehner, right?<br /><br />You make strong points. I'll be looking for some of that in the second issue.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-43290371144651423042011-09-26T17:28:20.232-03:002011-09-26T17:28:20.232-03:00It doesn't need to be beat for beat. But since...It doesn't need to be beat for beat. But since two of the themes of the original episode were a) the drama of Kirk having to kill his friend and b) the theme of power corrupting humans, their making Mitchell possessed instead of gone mad mostly negates those. And as far as I can tell so far, the nu story isn't replacing those themes with anything else. If you insist on re-telling the old stories, at least make them mean something, recontextualize to resonate for today's issues--but don't just dumb it down to a Voyager episode (yeah, I said it).<br /><br />PS I still can't understand why anyone believed that dropping a big rock on Mitchell was enough to kill him. The guy just stood up to a point blank phaser rifle shot in the chest, he was pretty damn-near omnipotent. Even Wile E. Coyote wouldn't have died from that boulder...snellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181997862745538999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-51520963203758958022011-09-26T13:26:28.450-03:002011-09-26T13:26:28.450-03:00It's no major spoiler, it'll be The Galile...It's no major spoiler, it'll be The Galileo Seven. Maybe they're going for stories motivated by the Enterprise and her crew itself, as opposed to outside events. For example, The Man Trap is predicated on McCoy's friend Nancy being replaced by the salt sucker. This would not have happened at time of the new timeline (which is around a decade earlier). But who knows?Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-20167469560312686132011-09-26T11:55:32.484-03:002011-09-26T11:55:32.484-03:00I enjoyed this issue, although I'm looking for...I enjoyed this issue, although I'm looking forward to #2 more because as you say, without Dehner the rest will have to vary more from the original. There's no point in doing this unless they make some real changes.<br /><br />I knew there would be interest in some quarters in re-telling the TOS episodes in the new continuity, but I hope it is confined to the comics and novels, and that the films continue to break entirely new ground.<br /><br />I don't know if you've seen the solicitations indicating which story follows next so I won't spoil it. However, it is interesting that they apparently will not be following the original order.Matthew Turnagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08115327182071167651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-35890637764940980742011-09-26T11:00:35.671-03:002011-09-26T11:00:35.671-03:00Liam: Yeah, I'm calling the film out.
Will: S...Liam: Yeah, I'm calling the film out.<br /><br />Will: Selfish bastard.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-11843350877160875552011-09-26T10:46:13.330-03:002011-09-26T10:46:13.330-03:00I always thought that Old Spock has an obligation ...I always thought that Old Spock has an obligation to warn people about some of the problems that are coming up. There is still a planet-killer out there, the giant space amoeba, the Gorn, etc, he could save a whole lot of lives.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04016344223492519028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-19959023395142734652011-09-26T10:28:23.874-03:002011-09-26T10:28:23.874-03:00It's called that in the film.It's called that in the film.LiamKavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01996095233681105682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-22264202092926201042011-09-26T10:09:47.661-03:002011-09-26T10:09:47.661-03:00Yes, you're right. But should they be calling ...Yes, you're right. But should they be calling it a "stardate"?Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-81764800254097360622011-09-26T10:04:24.512-03:002011-09-26T10:04:24.512-03:00The date is changed because nuTrek uses the calend...The date is changed because nuTrek uses the calendar year.<br /><br />Not only did Peter David use the entity angle, but so did Greg Cox in his Q Continuum novels. Not sure if Michael Friedman did in his novel, Valiant.Dehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10132196355430345167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-89517318957322038262011-09-26T08:53:04.961-03:002011-09-26T08:53:04.961-03:00Well Snell, you've said redoing the story beat...Well Snell, you've said redoing the story beat for beat is cratively bankrupt, but you also hate that they changed it. IDW can't win with you, can they ;-)Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-40045363589799129662011-09-26T08:28:34.827-03:002011-09-26T08:28:34.827-03:00Although wasn't that the implication used by P...Although wasn't that the implication used by Peter David in one of his Q novels?<br /><br />(The thing that always bugged me about this episode is how the super-evolution power of the Barrier is never, ever bought up again. Well, that and the implication that all humans have psychic powers to some degree, which is getting dangerously close to "humans only use 10% of their brains." nonsense.)LiamKavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01996095233681105682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-20079195309643798862011-09-26T07:51:18.000-03:002011-09-26T07:51:18.000-03:00If they follow through on Spock's suggestion t...If they follow through on Spock's suggestion that Mitchell is possessed by another entity (as the solicit for #2 suggests they will), and not corrupyed by his newfound power, they will have pretty much gutted the episode, in my opinion...snellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181997862745538999noreply@blogger.com