tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post4022491725599948328..comments2024-03-27T08:49:38.786-03:00Comments on Siskoid's Blog of Geekery: Reign of the Supermen #428: Superman, K HunterSiskoidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-64285375168496282432012-07-05T19:23:47.474-03:002012-07-05T19:23:47.474-03:00I guess what I'm struggling with is that despi...I guess what I'm struggling with is that despite the permission to go a little crazy in S/B, the stories still don't work as well as the Silver Age crazy stories that are, in many ways, more primitive/naive.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-11778365300779120862012-07-05T19:12:09.663-03:002012-07-05T19:12:09.663-03:00Chiming in way late because I'm still catching...Chiming in way late because I'm still catching up after two weeks of vacation with limited internet interaction but...<br /><br />Part of the weirdness and nonsense of this story can be explained by DC's stated position at the time that Superman/Batman was not in continuity. At the end of the Johnson/Green run, didn't their last issue reveal their run to have been a computer simulation (shades of Dennis O'Neill's explanation of the Super-Sons story)? I don't think there ever was an attempt to relate that era of Superman / Batman to the rest of the DCU.Matthew Turnagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08115327182071167651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-45284456243145747432012-07-02T20:26:29.591-03:002012-07-02T20:26:29.591-03:00Good Lord, poor Lana - if the K-metal collecting w...Good Lord, poor Lana - if the K-metal collecting was right out of the Silver Age, so was the Superdickery.Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-45213276613956676742012-06-30T12:51:05.651-03:002012-06-30T12:51:05.651-03:00snell is right on; tone is the issue. Old dumb Si...snell is right on; tone is the issue. Old dumb Silver Age stories weren't trying to be Shakespeare, they were just tales about Superman with some kind of interesting hook, and were also intended to be forgettable. By that I mean that they weren't intended to be important to the Superman canon, for the most part.<br /><br />I've got nothing wrong with stories that try to be serious or to change the status quo, but I'm going to evaluate stories by the standards they aspire to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-63182220871062785832012-06-30T10:16:54.026-03:002012-06-30T10:16:54.026-03:00Zing approved and given.Zing approved and given.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-45923497066695305452012-06-30T10:13:09.467-03:002012-06-30T10:13:09.467-03:00By this point in his career, Batman not believing ...By this point in his career, Batman not believing in magic is large large parts of the most developed nation on Earth not believing in evolution.<br /><br />(can I get a zing? I think I can.)LiamKavhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01996095233681105682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-19655279342956023502012-06-30T10:09:06.592-03:002012-06-30T10:09:06.592-03:00I'm putting a big checkmark next to your comme...I'm putting a big checkmark next to your comments. Completely true.<br /><br />It takes a very special writer to sell Silver Age nuttiness in a realistic framework. Grant Morrison became famous for it, for example.<br /><br />Part of the problem with those Superman/Batman stories (the first arc was just as dumb) is that I'm not sure the writers are actually trying to invoke the Silver Age.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-84323118120735239302012-06-30T10:03:11.680-03:002012-06-30T10:03:11.680-03:00It's also should be noted how prescient that &...It's also should be noted how prescient that "anti-kryptonite" armor you show in that first panel is, as it's not terribly far off from Jim Lee's Flushpoint version...snellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181997862745538999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-73291889035783701862012-06-30T09:49:59.694-03:002012-06-30T09:49:59.694-03:00I think the "Superman goers dark" is eno...I think the "Superman goers dark" is enough to take it out of the campy Silver Age. That's the problem...stories that try that stuff today are still trying so hard to be "realistic" and "gritty," and those two modes don't work together well (for most writers at least).<br /><br />Contrast with Dial H--China Mieville is committing to the type of nutty hero creations in a "real world" context, but somehow he's pulling it off (so far).snellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06181997862745538999noreply@blogger.com