tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post462126585830402244..comments2024-03-27T08:49:38.786-03:00Comments on Siskoid's Blog of Geekery: 10 Favorite Secret Wars MomentsSiskoidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-44622749638574113412014-10-21T20:07:50.010-03:002014-10-21T20:07:50.010-03:00But the Joker isn't a real person; he is whate...But the Joker isn't a real person; he is whatever the storytellers think is a good idea. Having the Joker do horrible things to Barbara may be in character, but it may also be a bad story idea for a number of reasons.<br /><br />So my beef is with the creative team -- Alan Moore, and Denny "cripple the bitch" O'Neil -- and not with the Joker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-90637550230160950472014-10-21T16:57:12.284-03:002014-10-21T16:57:12.284-03:00I think it's ridiculous to highlight something...I think it's ridiculous to highlight something the Joker did and say "not cool."<br />Yeah, no shit it's not cool. It's the Joker. He's a mass murderer. If you prefer Caesar Romero Joker, that's your prerogative, but the Joker is <i>supposed</i> to do horrible things.JohnFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09339402431610031589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-40723440348087590372014-10-21T10:11:39.734-03:002014-10-21T10:11:39.734-03:00I've always appreciated the brief sequence of ...I've always appreciated the brief sequence of Enchantress drowning her sorrows, and then stumbling around. Simon (formerly Johnny Sorrow)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08429628635241033885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-83391522690843716092014-10-21T07:50:11.946-03:002014-10-21T07:50:11.946-03:00I'm all for Superboy Punches every now and aga...I'm all for Superboy Punches every now and again, just to shake out of continuity all the stories you wish hadn't been told, or to fine-tune stories you want to keep in continuity.<br /><br />It's still in continuity that Carol Danvers was raped by a guy she later gave birth to, then ran off to his dimension with him, and the Avengers were cool with it.<br /><br />It's still in continuity that the Joker shot Barbara Gordon (which I can accept), then took off all her clothes (dude, not cool) and showed nude photos to her dad (dude, so totally not cool). If we must keep "The Killing Joke" more or less in continuity (I personally wish we woudln't but that's just me), at least make it less squicky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-7686694433172461492014-10-21T02:44:08.652-03:002014-10-21T02:44:08.652-03:00Oh, and Anon does make a great point about the rig...Oh, and Anon does make a great point about the right balance for crossovers in the early 80's. (And that could maybe be generalized to amount of legacy stuff supporting the run. Maybe someday Marvel will need a reboot like DC, it seems like it's becoming less tenable these days.)Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-26601836068205908662014-10-21T02:42:49.512-03:002014-10-21T02:42:49.512-03:00Great, great moments.
My one major regret, that s...Great, great moments.<br /><br />My one major regret, that seems to irritate me more as the years go by, is that Mike Zeck couldn't get to do the art in issue #4 (or #5). That's the issue where the Hulk holds up the whole mountain range; and at the same time Thor takes on the entire villain legion single-handed. The Layton are is really pretty awful, and these should be the highlights of those most powerful heroes that Zeck's big-fisted style is perfect for.<br /><br />I know you can't predict these things at the time, and they were on a deadline. But in retrospect the project would stand up so much better if they'd delayed publication to let Zeck catch up (or whatever the reason was).Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-42468710930616795292014-10-20T20:06:35.597-03:002014-10-20T20:06:35.597-03:00So many great moments.
And I agree with the comme...So many great moments. <br />And I agree with the comments here, the 80s were such a great era for Marvel.Arionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00794190466838336293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-67461525570482721802014-10-20T18:19:46.226-03:002014-10-20T18:19:46.226-03:00Loved Spider-Man taking out the X-Men, and Thor ve...Loved Spider-Man taking out the X-Men, and Thor versus Doom' s entire army. I also liked Doom responding to gaining godlike power by offering to go be Doom somewhere else and leave the heroes in peace until they decided to oppose him.American Hawkmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-60819872135700479752014-10-20T17:04:12.585-03:002014-10-20T17:04:12.585-03:00A giant laser beam pierces her right through the c...A giant laser beam pierces her right through the chest, but she miraculously survives then plays kissy-face with Magneto.<br /><br />I did not earmark those moments for my Top 10.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-83509042123065267062014-10-20T17:00:09.337-03:002014-10-20T17:00:09.337-03:00Boy this brings back some memories. Is this the o...Boy this brings back some memories. Is this the one where the Wasp died and nobody noticed?SallyPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05592635194271250605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-59710629838936381022014-10-20T13:45:50.307-03:002014-10-20T13:45:50.307-03:00Spider-Man vs. the X-Men was pretty good. I especi...Spider-Man vs. the X-Men was pretty good. I especially like the bit where Logan leaps at Spidey while making some threat, and Spidey casually turns and backhands back off panel, adding some comment about how those pigstickers may impress the rubes, but (I forget the rest).<br /><br />And I say that as someone who generally likes Wolverine, but it was still pretty cool.CalvinPitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11815632086057048846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-7689944873804411622014-10-20T10:19:07.914-03:002014-10-20T10:19:07.914-03:00Anon: I think so too, and not just because it'...Anon: I think so too, and not just because it's when I really got into comics. So many great runs... Claremont's X-Men, Simonson's Thor, Byrne on FF and Alpha Flight, Miller/O'Neil/Miller again/Nocenti on Daredevil, Peter David's Hulk... a great time for Marvel Comics before the 90s crashed the whole damn thing.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-86778372030597263022014-10-20T10:15:46.701-03:002014-10-20T10:15:46.701-03:00Aw, now I want to read this series, I never got be...Aw, now I want to read this series, I never got beyond (see what I did there) the first issue? I was sent a collection recently, so maybe ...Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-17703648682225909772014-10-20T09:15:15.830-03:002014-10-20T09:15:15.830-03:00"unless you're a fan of Peter Parker teac..."unless you're a fan of Peter Parker teaching the Beyonder how to use a toilet"<br /><br />You know me too well.<br /><br />There's something about the early 80s that I will always consider the Golden Age of Marvel Continuity. They seemed to have the balance just right between solo adventures and interconnectedness; and while sales was doubtless part of the calculation, it also felt more natural, like the creators on the various titles were working collaboratively out of a respect for the whole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com