tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post8718107743426077170..comments2024-03-27T08:49:38.786-03:00Comments on Siskoid's Blog of Geekery: So What Do I Want D&D 5th Edition to Be Like?Siskoidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-27046435787152583022012-01-26T08:03:17.208-04:002012-01-26T08:03:17.208-04:00I share your distaste with some of the 2E artwork ...I share your distaste with some of the 2E artwork (at least in the core books... Planescape products are mad awesome).<br /><br />And you've hit the nail on the head re: 3e. Tiny text over graphics. It gave me a headache just browsing through them.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-53852259845439116492012-01-26T00:36:45.410-04:002012-01-26T00:36:45.410-04:00I have a very, very, very low tolerance for the ar...I have a very, very, very low tolerance for the art in the 2nd edition core books. The PH, I think, has art that looks like a talented teenage girl's colored pencil work. A bit too soft.<br /><br />I'd love a new edition of the 2nd ed core books with the art from the 1st edition inserted in appropriate places.<br /><br />I really hate the 3rd edition core books with their hard-to-read glossy pages with lots of busy stuff in the margins and the text printed over fake "tome page" nonsense.Jon Hendrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-77232225717095091882012-01-25T07:29:58.752-04:002012-01-25T07:29:58.752-04:00Good call, Delta.Good call, Delta.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-86003435701466224192012-01-25T03:32:21.005-04:002012-01-25T03:32:21.005-04:00Keep in mind that in the last year Pathfinder sale...Keep in mind that in the last year Pathfinder sales figures regularly outstripped WOTC D&D. So the real question (business-wise) is whether they can lure back the large number of 3.5 players who forked off from 4E and played the 3.5-compatible Pathfinder instead. I think that's a unique position for them to be in.<br /><br />Me, I forked off 3.5 right back to OD&D.Deltahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00705402326320853684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-27345012450624528302012-01-24T17:17:05.006-04:002012-01-24T17:17:05.006-04:00My own memories are 2nd Edition, but I'm still...My own memories are 2nd Edition, but I'm still in favor of almost every change that happened in 3rd. [Moving and flipping the AC scale so that actual play involved less math, streamlining saving throws, and, above all, free multiclassing and prestige classes. And we got Demons and Devils back.]<br /><br />I really can't think of a single thing to recommend 2nd over 3rd. (If I were mentally sent back in time to the eighties, my house rules would incorporate just about every aspect of 3rd that I can remember...)Jeff R.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-47330856791725238072012-01-24T17:02:42.900-04:002012-01-24T17:02:42.900-04:00Ok.
Έτοιμα συστήματα, ιερείς με πραγματική θρησκε...Ok.<br /><br />Έτοιμα συστήματα, ιερείς με πραγματική θρησκείες, και θαυμάσια, ευφάνταστα ρυθμίσεις όπως planescape, spelljammer και ravenloft (να αναφέρω μόνο λίγα). Ναι ... Δεν είχα ποτέ μετατρέπεται σε 3e. Παλαιά σχολείο μωράκι! (καλά, παλιά αλλά όχι και τόσο παλαιό αυτό εννοώ αρχικό D*d ή προηγμένα 1 πρώτο σχολείο.)Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-8938942004756305332012-01-24T16:58:13.004-04:002012-01-24T16:58:13.004-04:00I...er...I have heard OF this...but you may as wel...I...er...I have heard OF this...but you may as well all be speaking Greek to me.SallyPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05592635194271250605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-91673201612836560692012-01-24T13:24:09.592-04:002012-01-24T13:24:09.592-04:00I agree that it's too soon for another edition...I agree that it's too soon for another edition... which makes me think that 4E tanked badly and Wizards needs to get back in the game.<br /><br />However, I'm not sure I agree that it won't sell. Why? Two reasons:<br />1. The D&D brand. It's the Kleenex of RPGs. Anyone who wants to get into role-playing will likely want to start with the one they head about, and that's gonna be whatever edition of D&D is on the market. There will always be a new generation for whom Edition X will be their first. <br />2. If 4E DID indeed tank, it would mean that many gamers did not convert from 3.5 to 4th (because it was too soon, or bad word of mouth). If so, then we're 4 years later, and 3.5ers might actually be interested in a new edition that - in their eyes - gets it right. Probably why they're going the Steve Jackson Games route of open playtests.<br /><br />I'm not necessarily right, and Wizards may wind up losing business because 4E gamers feel like they've been jerked around on this, and the rest of the world will follow.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-57669275031924770612012-01-24T12:33:02.634-04:002012-01-24T12:33:02.634-04:00I agree, I'm an AD&D player quite liked bi...I agree, I'm an AD&D player quite liked bits of what was done with both 2nd Ed and 3rd but $th (sorry that was actually a typo but so appropriate I'm leaving it!) did nothing for me... can't believe they think people will buy another new edition (*sadly* can believe they think people will buy another edition).<br />Suspect that this probably spells the end of D&D at least from WoC.Tobias Cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11655252093968418809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-72123081504000902002012-01-24T12:17:22.668-04:002012-01-24T12:17:22.668-04:00Craig: Neither am I, frankly.
These days, the gam...Craig: Neither am I, frankly.<br /><br />These days, the games I play tend to classlessness like Savage Worlds, DWAITAS, GURPS and various superhero games.<br /><br />And I've got so much AD&D2E product from the old days that I wouldn't invest in a whole new system if I ever wanted to go back to D&D.<br /><br />Randal: We must be contemporaries, that's pretty much when I got in too. I had just moved on to other games by the time 3E came outSiskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-20692479489448374522012-01-24T12:14:22.114-04:002012-01-24T12:14:22.114-04:00I started with 1st edition, at the tail end, but 2...I started with 1st edition, at the tail end, but 2nd was where I spent my formative years. And yes, the kits were wonderful. I remember getting so excited when each brown handbook came out...my myrmidon paladin (converted to 3rd eventually) is still my Main Character. Yes, 2nd had issues, there's no doubt.<br /><br />When 3rd came out, I remember leaving work to buy the Core books, then drove over to the apartment of my gaming friends and the three of us just read the books for like four hours in relative silence, every once in a while bursting into "whoa!" or "what?" We had a lot of fun with 3rd.<br /><br />When 4th came out, I was married, kid on the way, barely saw my friends, but we gave it a shot. We eventually went to Pathfinder, so that's about all I'll say about that. I remember our first session was complaining about how stupid saving throws were. <br /><br />I will not be buying 5th.Randalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-46632371962007142562012-01-24T12:07:09.221-04:002012-01-24T12:07:09.221-04:00No classes, no levels, no alignments, no Elves or ...No classes, no levels, no alignments, no Elves or Dwarfs, no spell lists, no dungeons. Maybe some dragons.<br /><br />... I may not be the target audience for a new edition of <b>D&D</b>.Craig Oxbrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16388821789251515974noreply@blogger.com