tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post9194215363056457321..comments2024-03-27T08:49:38.786-03:00Comments on Siskoid's Blog of Geekery: Swamp Thing's Burst BubbleSiskoidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-15941150051090162962008-03-31T13:31:00.000-03:002008-03-31T13:31:00.000-03:00Or of the 4th week of January, but thanks ;)Or of the 4th week of January, but thanks ;)Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-32799768491930965602008-03-31T11:01:00.000-03:002008-03-31T11:01:00.000-03:00"The DC Universe isn't so much a soft drink full o..."The DC Universe isn't so much a soft drink full of tiny rising bubbles as it is a lava lamp with bubbles flowing into each other."<BR/><BR/>And that's the Metaphor of Week!Scipiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217376618860561999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-27554820692922092282008-01-25T19:29:00.000-04:002008-01-25T19:29:00.000-04:00Actually, I agree. DC heroes (as opposed to Marvel...Actually, I agree. DC heroes (as opposed to Marvel's new model) all lived in their own bubble. And that conglomeration of bubbles was or became the DC Universe.<BR/><BR/>I remember thinking of putting the words "modern age" in there somewhere, because the Silver Age was plenty bubbly.<BR/><BR/>However, in the first article, I differentiated the outward/backward "bubble" with the dynastic model and contextualizing city concepts already described by Scipio at The Absorbascon. Batman and Superman have large worlds of their own, but their are achieved moreso through supporting cast and contextualizing city than outward/backward "bubbling". Except they've done that too on occasion (the League of Batmen, The Kents mini-series, etc.).<BR/><BR/>Let's just say I'm still defining my thought on all of this.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-67997304250053684402008-01-25T18:41:00.000-04:002008-01-25T18:41:00.000-04:00I don't want to split hairs but... Okay, I do want...I don't want to split hairs but... Okay, I do want to split hairs. I don't think Swamp Thing is the first DCU bubble world. Something I always loved about the DCU was its abundance of bubble worlds, but I never had a good name for the concepts until I read this blog. I think Batman and Superman have bubble worlds of their own. Sure, they hang around each other and the rest of DCU more than anybody else, but let's take Batman for example. Batman has his own well defined city where he can have adventures without any other bubble world bursting in. We can even read stories about Batman's bubble that don't have Batman in them, like Gotham Central, or all the Bat-satellite books like Robin and the like. You can completely separate Batman and his bubble from the rest of the DCU and tell a lot of stories.Batiduendehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00752011198757678247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-92008513340568830312008-01-24T19:02:00.000-04:002008-01-24T19:02:00.000-04:00I was speaking more about the politics than the la...I was speaking more about the politics than the landscape, in which Gaiman and the various Hellblazer writers continually attempted to claim that the guy in their book was really in charge. (Hellblazer followed Moore's lead with the triumverate originally, then Sandman elevated Lucifer's position and power well above the others and made it an indulgence of his to pretend to share rule, then Hellblazer brought in an independent 'Satan' who's position relative to the others was never clear or consistent. And of course, all of them almost always studiously ignored the Original Darkness in the corner...Jeff R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10010142887152619337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-37745174499079723812008-01-24T13:48:00.000-04:002008-01-24T13:48:00.000-04:00Well, I see it more as a partition than a bubble (...Well, I see it more as a partition than a bubble (bubbles expand a character's world within the shared universe, partitions cut them off from it), but how are the versions of Hell any different than the multiple Earths?<BR/><BR/>Other dimensions, many of them "hellish", all of them possibly existing as "THE" Hell. I don't have a problem with it, and Season in the Mists (in Sandman) had Lucifer make a point about each person getting the Hell they create for themselves, which is as good a justification for the multiple Hells as any.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37940560.post-29895361894578360482008-01-24T13:30:00.000-04:002008-01-24T13:30:00.000-04:00The 'DCU-ish vertigo' bubble was fragile enough to...The 'DCU-ish vertigo' bubble was fragile enough to start with, with extreme difficulty reconciling the version of Hell in Swamp Thing and Sandman with the one in Hellblazer...Jeff R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10010142887152619337noreply@blogger.com